Peacebulding at Peace Palace
By Roy Lie A Tjam.
The PeacePalace’s AcademyBuilding was the venue for a lecture on Friday 7 March by Judy Cheng-Hopkins, United Nations Assistant Secretary-General for Peace building Support.
One of the key guests attending the lecture was Ruud Lubbers, the former Dutch Prime Minister and former UN High Commissioner for Refugees. Mr Lubbers is also a member of the University for Peace (UPEACE) advisory council.
Also present at the lecture were Mr. Steven van Hoogstraten, General Director of the Carnegie Foundation, Marius Enthoven, Chairman of UPEACE, and Petra van der Ham, Managing Director of UPEACE The Hague.
Judy Cheng-Hopkins is United Nations Assistant Secretary-General for Peace building Support. The title of Cheng-Hopkins’ lecture was: Peace building: What, Why and How?
When answering the question of what is Peace building, Cheng-Hopkins set out the elements required for peace building under the acronym SCHLEP (schlep means to drag from Yiddish).
S – Safety and human security
Security sector reform (SSR), disarmament, demobilisation and reintegration (DDR), the Rule of law and human rights.
C – Civil society
Civil society mobilization and civic education, the civilian oversight of the army.
H – Healing
Reconciliation, mediation, transitional justice, protection, psychosocial therapy, IDPs and returnees/integration, sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV), reparations.
L – Livelihoods
Job creation, short-term employment generation, youth, public works.
E – Empowerment of women and youth
Restarting economic activities, resettlement and shelter, land reforms, natural resources.
P – Public administration and accountability
Re-establishing state authority, basic services provisions, institutions and local governance, constitutional reform, electoral reform processes, civil service reform, public finance management.
How? – the UN envisages working towards peace building via the UN peace building architecture. Established in 2005 this consists of three pillars: the Peace building Commission, Peace building Fund and Peace building Support Office.
According to Cheng-Hopkins, the role of women in peacebuilding if often not officially recognized and could be seen as the missing link in the peacebuilding process. She continued by stating that women are the ultimate victims of conflict, but also the ultimate agents of change because of their levels of responsibility for agriculture and family in developing countries. Women also play peace-building roles daily, typically at grassroots levels, for example the Acholi women groups vis-à-vis the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) in Northern Uganda. Cheng-Hopkins sees these women as important, every-day peace builders with importantly an innate interest for peace and a growing role in post-conflict parliaments.
More lectures on peace building will follow, www.upeace.nl
Ciconia Consort in concert
Ciconia Consort celebrates spring in music and images.
The Hague – Ciconia Consort brings an ode to spring in its concert ‘Sacre du Printemps’ , conducted by Dick van Gasteren, in the Nieuwe Kerk, The Hague, on Sunday March 23rd.
In the world of arts, ballet pays most attention to rituals of spring. The ‘Sacre du Printemps’ by Strawinsky is the best-known example. No wonder that a great part of the concert programme consists of suites from ballet music. However, spring also has inspired other composers and top works.
First, Ciconia Consort will pay attention to the Dutch and Hague composer Otto Ketting (1935-2012). His ‘Souvenirs du Printemps’ seems to be the ideal introduction to the following works of Strawinsky and Copland, as he integrates the Viennese decadency and American heroism of Strawinsky with Dutch soberness and poetry and touches of jazz, like Copland has done in his music.
‘Apollon Musagète’ by Strawinsky and ‘Appalachian Spring’ by Copland have been commissioned by the ‘Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge Foundation’ and performed in the Library of Congress in Washington DC. Conductor Dick van Gasteren will elucidate this co-operation and the atmosphere of the first half of the 20th century, using authentic photo’s and film fragments.
Meet and greet
After the concert, the audience is welcome to meet the director, musicians and each other, while enjoying a spring-bite and sparkling drink in bar-restaurant ‘Pavlov’, next to the Nieuwe Kerk.
Children’s programme
If there is enough interest, children up to 12 years may follow a special educational programme, under the guidance of a professional music teacher for the little ones. They will attend part of the concert.
When: Sunday March 23rd, 2014, start at 2.30 p.m.
Where: The Nieuwe Kerk, The Hague
Fees: children 4-12 years old € 2,50, “ooievaarspas” (reduction card)/youngsters/students € 10,-, other € 19,-/€ 21,50/€ 25,-/€ 28,50.
For more information, registration of children’s participation in the children’s programme, and tickets: www.ciconiaconsort.nl and sale of tickets at the entrance of the hall.
Germain Katanga found guilty
Direct from the International Criminal Court. The Hague.
Judges of Trial Chamber II of the ICC, Judge Fatoumata Dembele Diarra, Presiding Judge Bruno Cotte, and Judge Christine Van den Wyngaert, during the delivery of the judgment in the case The Prosecutor v. Germain Katanga on 7 March 2014 © ICC-CPI
Today, 7 March 2014, Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court (ICC), ruling in the majority, with Judge Christine Van den Wyngaert dissenting, rendered its judgment in the case The Prosecutor v. Germain Katanga. The Chamber was satisfied beyond reasonable doubt of Germain Katanga’s guilt as an accessory, within the meaning of article 25(3)(d) of the ICC’s founding treaty, the Rome Statute, to one crime against humanity (murder) and four war crimes (murder, attacking a civilian population, destruction of property and pillaging) committed on 24 February 2003 during the attack on the village of Bogoro, in the Ituri district of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). Decisions on sentencing and victim reparations will be rendered later. The Prosecutor and the Defence may appeal the judgment within 30 days.
Presiding Judge Bruno Cotte delivered a summary of the judgment at a public hearing today. He explained that in light of the witness testimonies and the evidence presented before the Chamber, it had been established beyond reasonable doubt that Germain Katanga had made a significant contribution to the commission of the crimes by the Ngiti militia, which was acting with a common purpose, by assisting its members to plan the operation against Bogoro. The Chamber found that Germain Katanga acted in the knowledge of the criminal common plan devised by the militia to target the predominantly Hema population of Bogoro. The crimes of murder, attacking civilians, destroying property and pillaging were part of the common plan.
The Chamber found that Mr Katanga was the intermediary of choice between the weapons and ammunition suppliers and those who physically committed the crimes using those munitions in Bogoro. He contributed to reinforcing the strike capability of the Ngiti militia who carried out the crimes committed in Bogoro on 24 February 2003. He also contributed, by virtue of his position in Aveba – the only place in the collectivité with an airport which could accommodate aircraft transporting weapons – to equipping the militia and enabling it to operate in an organised and efficient manner. His involvement allowed the militia to avail itself of logistical means which it did not possess enabling it to secure military superiority over its adversary. However, the Chamber dismissed the mode of liability, as principal perpetrator, applied to Germain Katanga, since it was not proven beyond reasonable doubt that in respect of the collectivité he had the material ability to give orders or to ensure their implementation, or that he had the authority to punish camp commanders.
The Chamber changed the characterisation of the mode of liability against Mr Katanga – who had initially been charged as principal perpetrator – on the basis of article 25(3)(d) of the Rome Statute, which defines being an accessory as contributing “[i]n any other way […] to the commission […] of […] a crime by a group of persons acting with a common purpose”. Germain Katanga was found guilty, as an accessory within the meaning of article 25(3)(d) of the Rome Statute, of the crimes of murder constituting a crime against humanity and a war crime and the crimes of directing an attack against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities, destroying the enemy’s property and pillaging constituting war crimes. The Chamber also decided that Germain Katanga shall continue to be detained pending sentencing.
The Trial Chamber acquitted Germain Katanga of the other charges that he was facing. With respect to these charges, the Chamber found that there was evidence beyond reasonable doubt that the crimes of rape and sexual slavery were committed. Regarding the crime of using child soldiers, it found that there were children within the Ngiti militia and among the combatants who were in Bogoro on the day of the attack. However, the Chamber concluded that the evidence presented in support of the accused’s guilt did not satisfy it beyond reasonable doubt of the accused’s responsibility for these crimes.
In her dissenting opinion, Judge Van den Wyngaert challenges the change in the characterisation of Germain Katanga’s mode of liability. She argues that the change in characterisation rendered the trial unfair and breached the rights of the Defence, as it did not receive proper notification of the new charges and was not afforded a reasonable opportunity to conduct investigations in order to mount a defence against them. Judge Van den Wyngaert maintains that there is no basis in the evidence for findings beyond reasonable doubt which can be relied on to establish Germain Katanga’s guilt.
Information about the trial
Germain Katanga, alleged commander of the Force de résistance patriotique en Ituri [Patriotic Force of Resistance in Ituri] (FRPI), was tried before Trial Chamber II, composed of Judges Bruno Cotte, Fatoumata Dembele Diarra and Christine Van den Wyngaert, for the crimes against humanity of murder, rape and sexual slavery and the war crimes of wilful killing, directing an attack against a civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities, destruction of property, pillaging, using children under the age of fifteen years to participate actively in hostilities, sexual slavery, and rape.
Mr Katanga was transferred to the Detention Centre in The Hague, the Netherlands, on 17 October 2007. The trial commenced on 24 November 2009, and the parties and participants delivered their closing statements from 15 to 23 May 2012. In the course of 265 days of hearings, Trial Chamber II heard 25 witnesses and expert witnesses called by the Prosecution, 28 called by the defence teams for Germain Katanga and Mathieu Ngudjolo Chui (whose case was joined to Mr Katanga’s during the trial and severed on 21 November 2012) and two called by the legal representatives of the victims. The Chamber also called two further experts to testify. In addition, Germain Katanga also chose to testify under oath as a witness. The judges ensured respect for the rights assured to each of the parties by the Rome Statute, including the right to cross-examine witnesses.
Leave was granted to 366 victims to participate in the proceedings, through their legal representatives. They were thus able to present their views on the issues before the Chamber and were authorised to put specific questions to the witnesses.
Trial Chamber II issued 409 written orders and decisions and 168 oral decisions. The parties and participants submitted more than 3,300 applications to the Chamber.
DM’s Chief Editor Receives Award
By Enitsa Gabrovska.
Diplomat Magazine’s Chief Editor Bonnie Klap receives award.
Her Excellency Mrs. Ireny Comaroschi, Ambassador of Romania has awarded Bonnie Klap, Editor in Chief of the Diplomat Magazine, with the “Remarkable Women Award,” for her active and extraordinary involvement in promoting Romania in The Netherlands. Four other Dutch women and five Romanian women also received the award. The ceremony took place in the residence of Ambassador Comaroschi and was followed by a beautiful violin-concert by Romanian violinist Florin Negreanu and a reception.
Ambassador Comaroschi hosted this Romanian Spring Evening to celebrate the traditional “Mărțișor” as well as the International Women’s Day. Guests had the opportunity to listen this magnificent violin concert. Romanian wine and snacks were offered. 
Syria Submits Revised Proposal to OPCW
Syria Submits Revised Proposal to OPCW for
Removal of Chemicals and Accelerates Pace of Deliveries to Latakia.
Directly from the OPCW in The Hague.
The Syrian Arab Republic has submitted to the OPCW a revised proposal that aims to complete the removal of all chemicals from Syria before the end of April 2014.
The OPCW-UN Joint Mission also verified that two more consignments of chemicals have left the port of Latakia, including a quantity of mustard gas – a Priority 1 chemical – which was previously reported last Wednesday. Another movement, a significant consignment of other Priority 1 chemicals, is scheduled to arrive in Latakia during this week, which will bring the total number of movements thus far to six.
The six movements represent more than 35% of all chemicals that must be removed from Syria for destruction, including 23% of Priority 1 chemicals and 63% of Priority 2 chemicals. In addition, the OPCW has verified that Syria has destroyed in situ more than 93% of its stock of isopropanol.
In his report to the opening session of the Executive Council, Director-General Ahmet Üzümcü said that all materials and equipment required by Syria are now in place for the expeditious removal of its remaining chemicals, including armoured jackets for the protection of containers.
“Given delays since the lapse of the two target dates for removal, it will be important to maintain this newly created momentum,” the Director-General told the Council. “For its part, the Syrian Government has reaffirmed its commitment to implement the removal operations in a timely manner.”
The Special Coordinator for the OPCW-UN Joint Mission, Ms Sigrid Kaag, also briefed the Council on recent progress in the Syria mission.
“Nearly one third of Syria’s chemical weapons material has now been removed or destroyed,” the Special Coordinator told the Council. “This is good progress and I expect further acceleration and
intensification of effort.”
Prior to initiating operations in January to remove its chemicals, in late 2013 Syria completed the functional destruction of its chemical weapons production facilities, mixing and filling equipment, and all of its munitions that were designed for use with chemical warfare agents.
The Syrian Arab Republic has submitted to the OPCW a revised proposal that aims to complete the removal of all chemicals from Syria before the end of April 2014.
The OPCW-UN Joint Mission also verified that two more consignments of chemicals have left the port of Latakia, including a quantity of mustard gas – a Priority 1 chemical – which was previously reported last Wednesday. Another movement, a significant consignment of other Priority 1 chemicals, is scheduled to arrive in Latakia during this week, which will bring the total number of movements thus far to six.
The six movements represent more than 35% of all chemicals that must be removed from Syria for destruction, including 23% of Priority 1 chemicals and 63% of Priority 2 chemicals. In addition, the OPCW has verified that Syria has destroyed in situ more than 93% of its stock of isopropanol.
In his report to the opening session of the Executive Council, Director-General Ahmet Üzümcü said that all materials and equipment required by Syria are now in place for the expeditious removal of its remaining chemicals, including armoured jackets for the protection of containers.
“Given delays since the lapse of the two target dates for removal, it will be important to maintain this newly created momentum,” the Director-General told the Council. “For its part, the Syrian Government has reaffirmed its commitment to implement the removal operations in a timely manner.”
The Special Coordinator for the OPCW-UN Joint Mission, Ms Sigrid Kaag, also briefed the Council on recent progress in the Syria mission.
“Nearly one third of Syria’s chemical weapons material has now been removed or destroyed,” the Special Coordinator told the Council. “This is good progress and I expect further acceleration and
intensification of effort.”
Prior to initiating operations in January to remove its chemicals, in late 2013 Syria completed the functional destruction of its chemical weapons production facilities, mixing and filling equipment, and all of its munitions that were designed for use with chemical warfare agents. 
RECENT EVENTS. Estonia National Day
On the occasion of the Independence Day of the Republic of Estonia, H.E. Peep Jahilo and his wife, hosted a reception at the Hilton hotel in The Hague on 25 February. Guests diplomats and friends gathered in a very warmth atmosphere showcasing tourist attractions and images from Estonia. 
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Diplomatic causerie, a Courtesy call from Ambassador Chen Xu
Diplomatic causerie – with the People’s Republic of China, member of the UN, G20, APEC and other international organisations.
By Roy Lie A. Tjam.
It was a pleasure to be welcomed by His Excellency Ambassador Chen Xu of the People’s Republic of China on a courtesy call. Ambassador Chen Xu proved to be a hospitable and charming diplomat. 2013 has been a year of numerous highlights as China looks back in order to surge further ahead.
The ongoing growth of China’s economy.
Profound reforms were initiated by the 18th Party Congress held in November 2012, and further elaborated by the 3rd Plenary Session of 18th CPC Central Committee held in November 2013. China is conscious of the fact that she has not yet achieved all her economic goals: ‘We are grouping stones while crossing the water’ says Chen Xu. ‘You can also say, we are busy digesting our economic boom’. China’s economic health has had a major impact on the world economy. China has also conceded that it is not easy to have a policy that will please every individual. Finding the appropriate management for our mega market is of paramount importance, observed the Ambassador.
According to Ambassador Chen Xu, his country has known 30 years of high-speed progress. However, maintaining the momentum is far from easy. The Chinese economy has improved performance and made significant achievements. In 2013, China’s gross domestic product (GDP) grew by an enormous 7.7%. Over 13 million new urban jobs were created.
The Chinese economy has recently become more closely connected with the world economy. In 2013, Chinese imports, exports and use of foreign investment all achieved considerable growth. Total imports approached $2 trillion and direct overseas investment by Chinese enterprises exceeded $90 billion.
Change from within
In 2014, agriculture will continue to be one of China’s priorities. China has 800 million farmers of which 200 million are drifting in the tremendous process of urbanization. Ambassador Chen Xu states that ‘Every citizen has within him the potential to retain our economic momentum, and every citizen should be entitled to benefit from China’s development’.
Geneva talks
China states that it stands for peaceful development and when embarking on business ventures, focuses on a win-win situation. Fortunately, we are today living in an era where peace and development remain the main theme of world politics compared to previous years.
China also looks to political solutions, often initiating a national reconciliation process. The recent sshipments of chemical weapons material out of Syria have had naval escorts provided by the People’s Republic of China, alongside Denmark, Norway and Russia, its partners in this operation.
East Asia
The Sino–Nippon relationship is unfortunately at its lowest point following the visit of the Japanese Prime Minister to the war shrine at Yasukuni. China feels that PM Shinzo Abe’s visit to the Yasukuni Shrine grossly violated the principle and spirit of the four political documents between China and Japan, and broke the commitment and promises of previous Japanese governments and leaders on the issue of history.
Asked whether reconciliation talks are envisaged, Chen Xu said: ‘Reconciliation is not possible, at least not for now. How can one talk about reconciliation with the intruder of one’s home while the intruder pays tribute to the perpetrators and does not have the intention to apologise?’
The Sino–Dutch relationship is almost 500 years old
Chen Xu was in China when PM Rutte visited the country. Rutte was the first European political leader to meet China’s top party leadership after the historic 3rd Plenary Session of 18th CPC Central Committee held in November 2013. Other significant visits which took place in 2013 included the Head of the Koninklijke Marechaussee and the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Chinese Army A.O.
China is aware that it could benefit from Dutch experience on areas such as water management and aagricultural advancements. China is considering revamping the old silk route which originated in Western China and entered Europe via Turkey. The route led to Rotterdam, as well as the rest of Europe and to Africa. There are actually two silk routes, one over land, the other was a maritime route.
Chen wishes to see a stronger tie between China and Europe, starting with the Sino-Dutch relationship. We see Holland as a geographically small country but one which holds an important position in Europe, says Chen Xu.
Nuclear Security Summit (NSS) 2014
Following the Chinese New Year celebration, Ambassador Chen Xu and his staff are now increasingly focused on the upcoming NSS 2014. A top level Chinese delegation will be participating in the NSS 2014. Certainly, China is getting ready for the summit in The Hague. The area in the vicinity of the Chinese Embassy is being prepared to facilitate the activities that will be taking place at the World Forum.
GAL“Destino Holanda”
By José de Bouza Serrano, Ambassador of Portugal in The Hague.
Frontiers fix the boundaries of countries, divide people and create national compartments, a fact reflected in maps and territories, but, people have always and even more so in the enlarged communitarian space, moved easily because emigration is, essentially, moving.
A change of house, scenery, work and country is, in most cases, based on a wish to improve conditions of life and family.
Fifty years ago, on the 22nd of November 1963 The Convention between the Netherlands and the PortugueseRepublic was signed in Lisbon regarding emigration, recruitment and the outplacement of Portuguese workers in the Netherlands. And whereas this Protocol marked, in the beginning, the arrival of a small group of workers also known as “gastarbeiders” to this country, the number of Portuguese in search of a better life since then has grown steadily. Others came for political reasons, mainly students, who refused to fight in the colonial war, finding more support and tolerance in this society.
But we have to go further back in History to see that already in the 17th century the first Portuguese Jewish emigrants sought refuge in the Republic of the Netherlands for religious reasons. They found refuge in Amsterdam where they built the famous Portuguese Synagogue, a well preserved universal monument. In the 20th century, after the First World War, Holland felt the need of more workmanship, especially in the areas of agriculture and fishery. Most Portuguese emigrants therefore moved to this country and continued to do so until the beginning of World War II. The end of this destructive period marked the renewed recruitment of foreign workmanship, this time mostly for the primary sector and the mining industry. The injection of capital provided by the Marshall Plan stimulated the secondary sector, specifically the electro domestic, car, aeronautic and petrochemical industries.
During the sixties the number of “gastarbeiders” reached 1500, but as a consequence of the family reunion that started with the Protocol of ’63, this number soon went up to 2000 and later on to 3500 Portuguese.
After the Revolution of April 1974, the statistics indicated 7500 Portuguese people working and living in the Netherlands, a number that grew higher together with the negotiations about the adhesion of Portugal to the European Communities. The Dutch Foreigners Law made it possible that many of our compatriots adopted the Dutch nationality, also were there more mixed marriages and children born from these mixtures who were registered as Dutch citizens (however, many of them were registered at the Consulate-General of Rotterdam). This important increase of Portuguese initiated a considerable movement of associative activities. It would be interesting to study and describe this process in order to understand how they came to conquer the statute they have nowadays.
Today, the Consular Section of the Portuguese Embassy has about 40 thousand registered Portuguese. The European economic crisis that started in 2008 and its effects on Portuguese society are felt in a way that a lot of young people emigrate because they cannot find employment in their home country. But, being citizens of the European Union and having the advantage of the mobility that comes with the European space, they don’t feel or see the necessity of being registered at the Consular Section of the Portuguese Embassy so that many of them remain unknown and we only come across each other in our daily life by coincidence.
The Federation of the Portuguese Community in the Netherlands, founded in the 80-ies of the former century decided to celebrate the 50th anniversary of this way of living that changed the lives of many Dutch and Portuguese people, of whom many still live here with their descendants or return because their homesick of the country that once received them.
For that reason the Federation organized, in November 2013, at the University of Amsterdam, a symposium called “Destino Holanda” (Destination Holland) which will be followed in the current year by a book with the different stories, lives and experiences describing this particular phenomenon of emigration. If we want to have a fruitful future, besides the past that I have just described briefly, this common way of being Portuguese has to be based on plurality, tolerance and an imaginative belief that is attractive for new generations. This is how Portuguese people will remain an important component in the economic development and social wellbeing of Dutch society that welcomed them and has grown with their daily work.
Interview with Marko Korac
By Bonnie Klap
Marko Korac, the husband of Vesela Mrden Korac, Ambassador of Croatia, welcomes us in their official residence, which has a stunning view on the harbor of Scheveningen. As Ambassador Mrden Korac is a highly succesful careerwoman, I ask Mr. Korac how he copes with that fact and how he has carved out a life for himself?
“I have absolutely no problem with the fact that she is so succesful, on the contrary, we function as a team and we support each other. When we met she was already a diplomat, so I knew what I was getting into. We met in Budapest, where I was working in sales and marketing of a Croatian food company at that time. I put my own career on hold as my wife could do more important things for our country in her position. But I am lucky that nowadays, according to the bilateral agreements between Croatia and some countries including The Netherlands, family members of diplomatic agents are eligible to work.
I am now allowed to have my own career in most foreign countries. When we arrived here three years ago, I first finished my Masters studies in European Union studies at the University of Leiden and then started working at the Rotterdam Business School, teaching Business ethics and research methods for business. I also coach students with international projects. As the Rotterdam Business School has a collaboration with the Trisakti University in Jakarta, I was fortunate enough to make a few trips to Indonesia, where I helped building the curriculum and structure the classes, so I have been very busy myself. Busy and proud of my school, a place where I can share my international and professional experience and also learn more every day from my fantastic students, colleagues and superiors. Still the most important thing is that my wife and I are a team. That works. On a different note: when we moved to The Netherlands, I experienced the terrific support system of the ASA , the Ambassadors Spouses Association. When you move to a new country it is precious to have such a kind of family network like the ASA that helps and supports in a great way, also addressing the practical things like where to find a doctor, baker, butcher and those kind of things.”
Ambassador Vesela Mrden Korac speaks Dutch, does her husband speak Dutch as well, I ask him?
“My wife speaks ‘Tweede Kamer Dutch’ and I speak ‘Albert Hein and Jumbo Dutch’! I do understand almost everything, but my pronunciation is not that good. I do have quite a few close Dutch friends. I remember, our very first Christmas in The Netherlands when my wife had to accompany a Dutch delegation to Croatia and I was home alone with Christmas! But my Dutch friend, a colleague from Leiden, invited me to spend Christmas at his house and I had this lovely Christmas at his beautiful farm in Houten. I went to church with him and his family for the Christmas Mass. It was very welcoming and memorable.”
Now that Croatia has officially become a Member of the EU, does he feel more at home here?
“I felt welcome right away. We were coming to The Netherlands very often, especially while we were posted in Brussels and we have had a few Dutch people as friends, including the Dutch Ambassador in Canada and his spouse, where we were posted before coming here. So we were very well briefed before our formal arrival and at the end it’s a lifestyle very similar to the Croatian one. I have great admiration for the Dutch ‘can do-mentality.’ There is so much water in and around this country, but they did this fantastic job in conquering the water. This can-do mentality is, in my opinion, the most impressive trait of the Dutch.”
How does this busy couple spend their precious free time?
“We love being outdoors, walking on the beach for instance and we like going to Kijkduin. The distance from our house to Kijkduin is 6 kilometres, but I am willing to walk that distance and back, as there is this place, where they have those amazing ‘Poffertjes.” For ‘Poffertjes met advokaatje’ I am happy to walk 12 kilometers!”